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	<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dragonsoulj</title>
		<link>http://www.jasonbadams.net/20081218/why-you-shouldnt-use-dev-c/comment-page-1/#comment-5106</link>
		<dc:creator>Dragonsoulj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 10:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Going on free alternatives, you could install GCC or MinGW with GCC and compile from the command line. This would help if you planned to move to Linux and use the terminal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going on free alternatives, you could install GCC or MinGW with GCC and compile from the command line. This would help if you planned to move to Linux and use the terminal.</p>
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		<title>By: A word on IDE&#8217;s &#171; ArthY303</title>
		<link>http://www.jasonbadams.net/20081218/why-you-shouldnt-use-dev-c/comment-page-1/#comment-5104</link>
		<dc:creator>A word on IDE&#8217;s &#171; ArthY303</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 23:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] because it hasn&#8217;t been updated since 2005 and the compiler that comes with it is outdated. This article summarizes best why you should not use Dev [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] because it hasn&#8217;t been updated since 2005 and the compiler that comes with it is outdated. This article summarizes best why you should not use Dev [...]</p>
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		<title>By: GoDK</title>
		<link>http://www.jasonbadams.net/20081218/why-you-shouldnt-use-dev-c/comment-page-1/#comment-5098</link>
		<dc:creator>GoDK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 07:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Embarcadero For The Win.

C++ Builder is miles above MSVC in my opinion. 
Of course it's not free, but it is the only reasonable "move up" for when you're ready for a /real/ production tool.

Quality has a pricetag. :)

Another alternative to Code::Blocks is Aptana Studio.
It pretty much does everything, and supports everything from Java and Python to Ruby and Groovy.
It's a one-stop-shop with a very nice interface.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Embarcadero For The Win.</p>
<p>C++ Builder is miles above MSVC in my opinion.<br />
Of course it&#8217;s not free, but it is the only reasonable &#8220;move up&#8221; for when you&#8217;re ready for a /real/ production tool.</p>
<p>Quality has a pricetag. <img src='http://www.jasonbadams.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Another alternative to Code::Blocks is Aptana Studio.<br />
It pretty much does everything, and supports everything from Java and Python to Ruby and Groovy.<br />
It&#8217;s a one-stop-shop with a very nice interface.</p>
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		<title>By: iLLukin mYztiKa</title>
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		<dc:creator>iLLukin mYztiKa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 06:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>points are well stated ! dev c's been a great alternative after Turbo C++ in many ways but with not being updated/maintained it is proving to be worthless in many courses. I'll include Code::Blocks in my updates, and thanks for taking your time to inform me on a better note :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>points are well stated ! dev c&#8217;s been a great alternative after Turbo C++ in many ways but with not being updated/maintained it is proving to be worthless in many courses. I&#8217;ll include Code::Blocks in my updates, and thanks for taking your time to inform me on a better note <img src='http://www.jasonbadams.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: leeor_net</title>
		<link>http://www.jasonbadams.net/20081218/why-you-shouldnt-use-dev-c/comment-page-1/#comment-5084</link>
		<dc:creator>leeor_net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 07:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a fantastic blog post and one that I frequently link to whenver I'm asked about Dev-C++. I used Dev-C++ back in 2000 when it was still being updated and other freely available tools either were sub-bar (sorry, but the text-mode editors that came with GCC were severly limited when it came to the expectations of a GUI environment) or were non-existant (Visual Studio Express Edition didn't become available until the 2005 series).

Code::Blocks is a pretty good alternative and its updated installer package makes it a lot easier for beginners to use. However, it doesn't get updated frequently enough to compete with other well-established projects like Eclipse (not really for beginners, I know) and CodeLite.

Regardless, I always suggest that someone who is uninsterested in cross-platform development and is a Windows user should use Visual Studio Express Edition. It's (mostly) full featured despite a lack of a few resources, in particular those that power and professional users will [probably] never need. And, it's a great introduction to Visual Studio development so that should a beginner decide that they want to continue development moving to a full version of Visual Studio is pretty painless.

There are always better alternatives to any software package and it often requires a bit of research to make a final decision. No matter which way you look at it, however, Dev-C++ is one package that should not be blindly linked to anymore when there are other much better solutions available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a fantastic blog post and one that I frequently link to whenver I&#8217;m asked about Dev-C++. I used Dev-C++ back in 2000 when it was still being updated and other freely available tools either were sub-bar (sorry, but the text-mode editors that came with GCC were severly limited when it came to the expectations of a GUI environment) or were non-existant (Visual Studio Express Edition didn&#8217;t become available until the 2005 series).</p>
<p>Code::Blocks is a pretty good alternative and its updated installer package makes it a lot easier for beginners to use. However, it doesn&#8217;t get updated frequently enough to compete with other well-established projects like Eclipse (not really for beginners, I know) and CodeLite.</p>
<p>Regardless, I always suggest that someone who is uninsterested in cross-platform development and is a Windows user should use Visual Studio Express Edition. It&#8217;s (mostly) full featured despite a lack of a few resources, in particular those that power and professional users will [probably] never need. And, it&#8217;s a great introduction to Visual Studio development so that should a beginner decide that they want to continue development moving to a full version of Visual Studio is pretty painless.</p>
<p>There are always better alternatives to any software package and it often requires a bit of research to make a final decision. No matter which way you look at it, however, Dev-C++ is one package that should not be blindly linked to anymore when there are other much better solutions available.</p>
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		<title>By: accelleon</title>
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		<dc:creator>accelleon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have VS 2008 and VS 2010 Beta. Before that you can definitely guess what I used... Dev C++... Dev C++ doesn't have any of the many features that new developers like. I was a rookie programmer when I tried it. I immediately switched to Visual C++ 2008 Express edition. I couldn't stand the horrific GUI nor the fact of how outdated it is and the simplicity of it is poor. Visual C++ quickly brought up to par with the C++ language. The features (for me) weren't hard to sort out. Each project type was clear as was the options. Along side the other post it is definitely worth the effort to learn to use them. Also if your considering Visual C++ then they got alot of documentation and tutorials for the novice programmer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have VS 2008 and VS 2010 Beta. Before that you can definitely guess what I used&#8230; Dev C++&#8230; Dev C++ doesn&#8217;t have any of the many features that new developers like. I was a rookie programmer when I tried it. I immediately switched to Visual C++ 2008 Express edition. I couldn&#8217;t stand the horrific GUI nor the fact of how outdated it is and the simplicity of it is poor. Visual C++ quickly brought up to par with the C++ language. The features (for me) weren&#8217;t hard to sort out. Each project type was clear as was the options. Along side the other post it is definitely worth the effort to learn to use them. Also if your considering Visual C++ then they got alot of documentation and tutorials for the novice programmer.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@Beard Pass:&lt;/strong&gt; You make a good point there, but I would argue that the issues you identify are problems with the available documentation and articles online rather than actually making a good case for using Dev-C++.  In the case of your problem with Code::Blocks (and I don't know why they didn't provide you help with this) I believe the problem is likely that you have to install a compiler seperately to the IDE, as explained in step 2.1 of &lt;a href="http://wiki.allegro.cc/index.php?title=Code::Blocks" rel="nofollow"&gt;this article on setting up Allegro with Code::Blocks&lt;/a&gt;.  The most common problem people have with Visual Studio tends to be getting confused by all the options and not knowing which type of project to make, which is explained in &lt;a href="http://scientificninja.com/advice/how-to-create-a-blank-cpp-project-in-visual-studio" rel="nofollow"&gt;this article on creating a blank project in VS&lt;/a&gt;.

It's my firm belief that people should continue working to create and improve documentation on proper use of newer solutions rather than encouraging beginners to use an outdated option like Dev-C++, and that although there is unfortunately currently a slightly increased level of difficulty in starting out with these newer tools it is well worth the effort of using them in the long run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@Beard Pass:</strong> You make a good point there, but I would argue that the issues you identify are problems with the available documentation and articles online rather than actually making a good case for using Dev-C++.  In the case of your problem with Code::Blocks (and I don&#8217;t know why they didn&#8217;t provide you help with this) I believe the problem is likely that you have to install a compiler seperately to the IDE, as explained in step 2.1 of <a href="http://wiki.allegro.cc/index.php?title=Code::Blocks" rel="nofollow">this article on setting up Allegro with Code::Blocks</a>.  The most common problem people have with Visual Studio tends to be getting confused by all the options and not knowing which type of project to make, which is explained in <a href="http://scientificninja.com/advice/how-to-create-a-blank-cpp-project-in-visual-studio" rel="nofollow">this article on creating a blank project in VS</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s my firm belief that people should continue working to create and improve documentation on proper use of newer solutions rather than encouraging beginners to use an outdated option like Dev-C++, and that although there is unfortunately currently a slightly increased level of difficulty in starting out with these newer tools it is well worth the effort of using them in the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: makalbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>makalbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for useful information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for useful information.</p>
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		<title>By: Beard Pass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beard Pass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's a reason why Dev C++ is still being used and why it isn't "...ridiculous that it ever ends up in the hands of anyone who is just now starting out."  If you're wondering who a beginner is, well you're looking at him.  Or... uhh you're looking at what he typed on your blog.  Anyway, a beginner, novice, rookie, nub, new guy, idiot, loser, newcomer, etc. finds Dev C++ a good option, even if it isn't sexy and up to date.  I decided to try Code::Blocks and Programmer's Notepad after being scolded by the experts on a few forums.  It's been about 3 days now and so far I've only been able to compile a program on... you guessed it, Dev C++.  I decided to go to the Code::Blocks forum help section to see what I was missing when the compile button didn't work.  My thread was locked and I still can't seem to compile a program on Code::Blocks.  With my thread locked on their "help" forum, there was no follow up and I was really left on my own, a novice-rookie-loser still without a clue... *sigh* at least I can still test practice programs and hone my talent on Dev C++ until I'm up to speed enough for more advanced IDEs like Code::Blocks and PN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a reason why Dev C++ is still being used and why it isn&#8217;t &#8220;&#8230;ridiculous that it ever ends up in the hands of anyone who is just now starting out.&#8221;  If you&#8217;re wondering who a beginner is, well you&#8217;re looking at him.  Or&#8230; uhh you&#8217;re looking at what he typed on your blog.  Anyway, a beginner, novice, rookie, nub, new guy, idiot, loser, newcomer, etc. finds Dev C++ a good option, even if it isn&#8217;t sexy and up to date.  I decided to try Code::Blocks and Programmer&#8217;s Notepad after being scolded by the experts on a few forums.  It&#8217;s been about 3 days now and so far I&#8217;ve only been able to compile a program on&#8230; you guessed it, Dev C++.  I decided to go to the Code::Blocks forum help section to see what I was missing when the compile button didn&#8217;t work.  My thread was locked and I still can&#8217;t seem to compile a program on Code::Blocks.  With my thread locked on their &#8220;help&#8221; forum, there was no follow up and I was really left on my own, a novice-rookie-loser still without a clue&#8230; *sigh* at least I can still test practice programs and hone my talent on Dev C++ until I&#8217;m up to speed enough for more advanced IDEs like Code::Blocks and PN.</p>
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		<title>By: JamesD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JamesD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the useful info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the useful info.</p>
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